Damaged my hair. Questions about my process and products.by AnjalenaPosted 6 years, 8 months ago
(Firstly, I apologize for the length of my posts. I'm not good at being short & concise. I try my best.)
Think I really damaged my hair. My hair is thick and naturally wavy. If I scrunch it with my hands when it's wet and air dry it, it's curly.
Attached pics are hopefully good enough. Used no flash. The first pic was right next to the light. My lights are daylight not incandescent.
The good news is that when I am washing it or carefully combing it with a wide toothed comb, I'm not getting breakage or hair falling out. The drain is almost completely devoid of hair. And my hair was very healthy before I bleached. The reason I bleached at all is cuz I was going from purple to teal blue-green (though the pics look very blue). But I think I made a few mistakes in my process.
Firstly, before bleaching, I spent a week or so removing as much color as I could with cheap dandruff shampoo and non-color safe conditioning treatments. I got down from a vivid fuchsia purple to a dull pinkish color. The long conditioning treatments did great things for my hair too!
BUT, my mistakes:
1> Bleached roots first but then bleached the ends for almost the full bleaching time. I last bleached in mid-June so those lengths had been previously bleached. I shouldn't bleach previously bleached hair the full time, should I?
3> Used a 30 volume developer for all of my hair. Probably should have used the 30 on the dark brown roots and 10 or 20 on the bleached lengths, right?
2> Used a hair dryer after I got out of the shower to dry my hair. I very VERY rarely dry my hair with a dryer... usually let it air dry. But it was very very late and I wanted to get the dye on my head before I went to bed.
A lot of the lengths of my hair looked like they'd been styled by a teeny tiny krimping iron after I dried with the dryer. That's damaged, right?
So, what I'm doing is using coconut oil treatments, using Ion Effective Care Treatments in the shower and leaving in for 20-30 min before rinsing thoroughly, trying to use as little shampoo as possible.
I tried to look through the articles to see if there was one that talked specifically about some good hair care products to use for our color-treated hair and for damaged hair. Currently, the shampoo I'm using is John Frieda's Full Repair... but it seems to leech out too much color so not sure if it's color safe. The regular color-safe conditioner I have is Tresemme Naturals silicone free Nourishing Moisture conditioner (with aloe vera and avocado).
I know these are cheapo products but I am pretty poor. I make $710 per month and in Maine in the U.S. where I live, that amount of money wouldn't even pay for rent in most apartments. I have to get a subsidy from the govt to survive. So it has to be cheap for me. =(
So, my questions. 1> What are some good, cheap products I can use to help bring some health back to my hair?
2> What's the best, gentlest, color safe shampoo I can use?
3> Should I use a moisturizing conditioner after using the Ion Effective Care Treatment?
(These pics are very large so you can see details. So be sure to click on them.)
by Wicked_PixiePosted 6 years, 8 months ago
The only thing you did wrong was to double process your lengths. It wasn't necessary to bleach out the pink at all, it would have been covered by the blue. There is no need to bleach hair that is already light enough (even if it is under a layer of dye staining) if you really had to, a very quick, low vol bleach bath would have been sufficient. Yes it does look a little damaged, but not as bad as it could have been. It needs some protein, a deep moisturizing treatment, and no more chemicals or heat styling. The good news is these don't have to cost a bomb. A good cheap protein mask is plain old mayonnaise, or an egg if you have a spare one. Then follow with a hot oil treatment, you can use pretty much any oil you will have in. Olive oil is good, as is almond oil. You can also just leave your regular conditioner on overnight. The coconut oil can also be used to smooth the frizz and prevent further protein loss. Jut melt a smidgen in your hands and smooth through the ends. A good trim will make it feel much better too. I don't use shampoo at all, I use conditioner to wash as it makes my colour last longer. (Google CO washing) If you want a shampoo look for one that is SLS (Sodium Laurel Sulphate) free. Often advertised as Sulphate free. The new colour looks beautiful.
I did then what I knew then, & when I knew better, I did better.
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by AnjalenaPosted 6 years, 8 months ago
Thanks Wicked! Very good info. I thought that with my hair still looking pink, it would mix with the blue-ish/teal and turn purple. I actually did a few strand tests and putting the teal directly onto the strand without bleaching came out teal but kinda a muddy teal. And the strands that I bleached came out a really nice light blonde.
But this whole thing is a learning process. So I've learned some important things. I did the conditioner treatment last night and my hair looks a lot better today. Still kinda limpy, but part of that is cuz I put a little coconut oil on my hair after I rinsed all the conditioner out. Not much but maybe a half teaspoon and combed it through my ends. But it's curling up more than yesterday. Here's a few pics I took today.
I did find some products I'd love to try but they seem to mostly be in Canadian stores. My friend, who lives in Newfoundland told me about it cuz they are cheap but good. I don't know where to buy them online. But if you go to this link and click on "About Nude" on the left, it'll give a list of "features", like Plant Derived, Phosphate free, SLS free, Vegan, Biodegradable, etc. Something like that would be great but don't know of another brand that's sold either online or in a store in the northeast U.S.
Thanks for the tip about the coconut oil. It is hard but I just close the bottle tightly and then just run some hot water over it for about 30-45 seconds and it melts enough of it to use.
I'll look up CO washing but I'm pretty sure I've read about it before. The No-Poo or Curly Girl Method or something like that. I'm probably going to lean toward that. I'm thinkin on it. But for now, if I use shampoo (which I'm not using shampoo for a few days at least) I'll just put a very small amount in my hand, dilute it with some water, rub it into my roots for a sec, then rinse. I think I read that here on haircrazy somewhere. The suds will clean the lengths as it washes down them?
I do love the new color. It's slightly more green than in the photos, especially the roots. More of a peacock green. But I can't get the greenish hues to come out in the pic. I went through numerous settings like White Balance and Scene modes in my camera and nothing helped. And I'm using daylight full spectrum bulbs, not incandescent. Anyway, it's very lovely and has a lot of beautiful subtleties to it. There is a big patch in the back, though, that somehow didn't get the full color. So I'm gonna need to put more color on that. Not sure if I need to try to mix up the exact same color I used the first time, or a diluted version of it? Cuz it already has some color, it's just noticeably lighter than the rest.
Anyway, thanks again, Wicked. =)
by miss_hayleyPosted 6 years, 7 months ago
In terms of fixing the damage, egg hair masks and also, olive oil hair masks! Coconut oil is amazing too but personally I like the effect of egg masks (which is just whisked egg left on for as long as you like, and rinsed with cold water) and olive oil (warmed in the microwave a little and slathered on and rinsed out) but I have heard olive oil can pull colour out of hair but I've never had any issues with it! Any sort of serum will be good to make your hair look a bit healthier and seal up the ends too, or anything full of silicones (if you don't mind that of course) as it will just smooth over the hair so even if it isn't healthier, it will look better!
I've used the curly girl method of hair washing before but I don't really like it, I just like shampooing my hair. I know in the UK there is a cheap brand called Naked which do cheap SLS free shampoo, but to be completely honest I found it made very little different to how much my hair faded when my hair was blue. Also since your hair is a bit damaged it might hold onto the colour a bit better as it is porous.
also if you are going to do the patch of hair that's been missed at the back, maybe dilute it a bit with conditioner and slap it on everywhere and whack a shower cap on and leave it for ages so it's like a hair treatment too :)! The colour is amazingggg by the way and I hope your hair gets it's curls back soon, I'm in the same boat with bleached white hair!
What would NPH do?
by menotseen28Posted 6 years, 7 months ago
I use the CG method but I can't just use conditioner every day because eventually my hair gets limp because I have so much hair. I have to use a sulfate free shampoo once a week or twice a week. I use Miracle 7 for that it is thin and it doesn't suds up that much either. Something else, for getting the hair back to a healthy state if you dont mind trimming the really fried ends off I would do that also. I did it and it made a world of difference. I have to keep hot irons and things like that off my hair because it is curly and it makes the ends fray out when I use a hot iron or a curling iron unless I turn it down REAL low. CG method isnt hard to figure out and it might actually bring out some of the natural curls in your hair and make it look better altogether. I know it has tamed alot of my frizz and I am thankful for that. Definitely dont double process hair, I have learned that the hard way. Something else if you aren't feeling any goopy hair like slimy feeling then it isnt too damaged. It is just going to take some time after the bleaching to get back to normal. If I bleach my hair, it takes about two weeks of extreme conditioning to get my curl pattern back normal. I decided this time that there was going to be no bleach put on this head at all. I really like the color, hope it works out for ya!
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