How to fix uneven home dye/bleach jobPosted 5 months, 2 weeks ago
I can not afford to go to the salon so please don’t recommend that. I wash my hair every day and I have to so please don’t tell me not to (except I don’t wash it for 48 hours after toning). And dry shampoo turns my hair into an oil blob (my hair reacts weirdly to hair products). So that’s a no as well. I am fully aware I’ve gone about it all wrong so what I need now is help with a solution pretty please.
Some details: I wanted my hair a level 12 lightest blonde so I could put nice funky wash out colours on it. My natural hair colour is light brown (like the dark side of level 7) with a natural golden shine. It’s very fine and thin but has high endurance. I don’t ever use straightners or do complicated blow drying things that involves a lot of heat application. At most I blow dry 5 minutes with my head upside down (it’s fully dry that quickly). But I haven’t been blow drying my hair during this whole dying process. What I’ve been doing has been done over a series of months and I have been doing all the deep conditioning, hair repairing masks, protein treatments, purple and blue shampoo and all that stuff throughout the whole saga.
Prelude: A year ago I had highlights done on my virgin hair (no low lights). The highlights were done so fine there was almost no point to them. Now at the start of this dying and bleaching I had a year’s worth of regrowth.
So: I dyed my hair with L’oréal Paris Preference Platinum Extreme Platinum Blonde Permanent Hair Dye. That took my hair to a level 8 medium blonde with still that visible gold shine I usually have but not like red/orange. There was also no colour difference between my regrowth and the rest of my hair. I then dyed it with Jerome Russel Bblonde lightest blonde. That took it to a level 9 with no gold shine at all and still no visible difference between my regrowth and the rest of my hair. I should’ve left it at that :/
Then I did a bleach bath, which is when my hair started showing it’s true colours, so to speak. My regrowth went yellow but not light yellow enough and the rest went a strange light wanna be gold colour. I then did a straight bleach leaving my regrowth till last. The regrowth went the desired very pale yellow but the rest only went an even lighter wanna be kind of gold. The highlights obviously went extremely light as well. But yet that part of my hair in between the highlights, which was still virgin hair when starting this colouring process just won’t budge.
Despite the colour difference after the last bleach I put Wella T18 toner on to assess the colour difference with toner on it. As expected the regrowth and past done highlights went the lightest ash blonde as it’s supposed to but the rest is a kind of a cross between peach and very light caramel with hints of very light pale orange. It’s not the worst colour but it’t not all the same colour as the regrowth.
These photos are from one wash after toning (but only after not washing it for the first 48 hours after toning). Guess the colour has settled a bit (looking rather yellow again already though) but I tried to show the colour difference as much as possible in the photos. I’m not up for bleaching the stubborn bits again and actually feel like it might not even budge anyway. But so what now is what I need help with please.
At this stage I’m not bothered anymore with having it such a ridiculously light colour but also, after having gone through all this, would like to try avoid dying it to a brown level if it can be avoided. Now what I really hope to be able to do it is colour it a light pastel pink/rose colour, which I want to do with permanent dye (perhaps I should try a wash out first). I’m not bothered if the part with the highlights go two different pinks but concerned about the gold/peach colour it is now not going pink but another weird colour instead. Plus the regrowth will also not be even with the rest of it. Is there a way I can go about doing it pink in a manner where it comes out the right all pink colours and make the regrowth blend in somehow? And if I can do that any suggestions on what brand dye to use?
If that’s not an option can I get it to an even all over level 8 or 9 medium blonde and if yes how? Like what colour dye should I use because I know it being ash dye or all that kind of shade things matters. Suggestions on what brand dye to use will help too.
If none of that is an option what can/should I do please? I wrote an essay here but thought best to know all the details. Thanks in advance.
My picture that I named colour difference up close is showing a picture that's not even me and can't edit it for some reason so uploading it in reply.See next reply with picture though.
Colour difference up close.
by vivienne StaffPosted 5 months, 2 weeks ago
Can you link a photo of your goal colour? If it's a very light pastel, you'll probably have trouble getting it all one tone, but I have personally found some variation doesn't look terrible. If you did a subtle gradient with a cooler pink. I don't have much experience with permanent pastel shades, so I can't really recommend anything specific, though I'd just do a strand test first. I have generally found that permanent colourful dyes really don't have any longevity advantage over semi-permanents that don't use developer, though, so I think semi-permanents might be a better option if you're worried about damage.
As for the difference between your roots and your lengths, your roots obviously lifted more as is common because they process faster due to the heat from your scalp. If you wanted to be blonde, you could probably dye them a bit darker to match the more golden bits on your lengths, though I'd probably use the lightest shade you can find, because bleached hair tends to absorb more dye and goes darker than expected. Strand testing would be key. Personally, I think the differences is probably being exacerbated by the toner, because our eyes are more sensitive to the difference between cool and warm tones. I might give it a few more washes to see if the roots warm up any more and match better.
@Vivienne Thanks for your reply. I realise I've being a bit overzealous with wanting to jump into permanent dyes. I've got some pictures here of what I'm after and discovered that Bleach London makes a rosé toner, rosé washout dye and a rosé tinted shampoo and conditioner. The pictures are from one who used the rosé toner and the other with the lighter shade used the rosé wash out dye. So I'm going to try these products. Probably use the toner in the first instance and see if I like the colour and then it's not forever if I don't like it. But I like that one can use the toner or dye and keep it topped up with the tinted shampoo and conditioner. I know I've still got the current uneven colours to contend with but I really just want to put the rosé toner on and forget about my hair for a bit colouring wise. Been such a faff but now feel like all hope is perhaps not lost.
I realise I'll have to get the current toner in my hair out first before attempting to tone it with the Bleach London Rosé toner. I know I can use clarifying shampoo, which I do have to hand, to speed up the process. I ordinarily wash my hair with no nasties shampoo that shouldn't be stripping things out my hair so quickly. But after washing it yesterday the colour difference after toning with Wella T18 did look somewhat more settled, although there's still a very visible difference understandably. However that peach, orange and light gold hybrid colour already started breaking through the toner in a big way. The lighter regrowth part also has a light yellow glow to it already. So today I washed my hair with a combination blue/purple shampoo and used a, what's supposed to be, super strength blue conditioner. I only left these in for the amount of time as per the instructions on the bottles. Absolutely nothing about my hair looked in any way toned down even in the slightest way. It just looks again like the Wella T18 toner has washed out even more. I know toner doesn't last but only three washes wow. And I know the purple and blue shampoo and conditioners aren't the cure all but seriously. Haven't seen anyone else on the internet with hair on strike like mine. Relentless!
Basically, I don't mind variations in tones with the rosé gold but not confident it will necessarily do what it should on the peach or whatever colour it is parts of my hair. A subtle gradient is a good suggestion. Seems I can't trust my hair to behave the same as all those people's hair in the millions of Youtube videos I've watched. I guess its come to that I'm going to just have to experiment with strand tests using wash out rosé colours and see what works. Unless there's any more advise out there. The struggle is real :/
by vivienne StaffPosted 5 months, 2 weeks ago
For blue/purple shampoo or conditioner, I find it's best to apply them on clean, dry hair and leave them in for a bit longer than suggested (maybe around 10 minutes) if you're having issues getting them to stick. Basically you treat them like a very dilute semi-permanent dye.
I do think the pink toner will work, though it may be a slightly warmer rose gold on the peachy bits and more of that cooler silvery pink on the roots. I personally like diluting more pigmented pink dyes with conditioner as I feel like it gives me a bit more control in how strong to make the mix, but if you're not up for that much fuss, I don't think it'll be awful to just use a pre-mixed pastel. I do think the Bleach London shades are extremely pale and not long-lasting, but you can help it a bit by leaving it in longer, since it's not doing any damage.
Posted 5 months, 1 week ago
@vivienne Cool beans. Thanks for all your help.
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