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Rushed and horrible
  • ngss0811

    Rushed and horrible

    by ngss0811
    Posted 2 years, 3 months ago

    I've always done at home coloring with no issues. The other night my daughter pushed to get her hair lightened and colored and I honestly was SO TIRED and annoyed I rushed through it and now it looks awful and I regret doing it, especially with not having enough of one product. I used Paul Mitchell lightening cream and prizm lights powder with 20V. Shame on me. Her hair didnt process evenly of course and I just threw artic fox blue on and it didnt take to half her hair. Just looking for advice on how to strip color without hurting her hair or should I try to reduce her hair with a different brand? She loves the blue that did take. I attached a before, after bleach and after color for reference. I was looking into hair color removing using baking soda! I plan on ordering from Sally's to fix it!

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  • StainRookie
    by StainRookie
    Posted 2 years, 3 months ago

    You are a super cool mum, I bet your daughters adore you. I would avoid baking soda, on my hair is actually worse than bleach (but other people experience may be different, of course). I personally prefer dish soap as an "emergency" stripping method. I'd try a color remover made for deposit dyes, to avoid surprises.

  • tbonita
    by tbonita
    Posted 2 years, 3 months ago

    Dandruff shampoo, sun & vitamin c treatments - blues are easy to strip usually (unless ion was used). Her hair has to be much blonder for blues to take, so after a while when her current blue is faded and her hair and scalp have had time to heal, you’ll need to lighten again. Color remover won’t do much in my opinion based on my experience.

    How old is she? When I bleached my daughter’s hair for the first time (7-9 at the time I forget), it lightened so fast it was hot to the touch!!! So be careful! Coconut oil!

  • ngss0811
    by ngss0811
    Posted 2 years, 3 months ago

    Am I ok to strip the color(I used artic fox) and use toner so her hair isnt so orange? She is 11, almost 12 :)

  • StainRookie
    by StainRookie
    Posted 2 years, 3 months ago

    I think toning would be ok, do the recommended allergy test to be safe... but I think the blue may had already worked as s toner. I don't see orange in her current haircolor at all. I'd be more worried about green stains from the blue. Maybe purple shampoo and conditioner could help her mantain a cooler tone, but I won't personally fight too much the orange before getting rid of all the blue! Red counteracts green, so It may play in her advantage, having a bit of brassiness underneath.

  • tbonita
    by tbonita
    Posted 2 years, 3 months ago

    You need to fade the blue and lighten her hair again. If you do not fade the blue first it may go green when bleaching. Maybe that is what the poster above is referring to with green. Blue does not work up on hair that dark or warm. If you got a semblance of blue, it would fade to a gross black green. Blue + any warm tones in hair = green as well. If not now, very soon as it fades. Maybe poster is referring to that too. Red will not play in any advantage in a blue situation. You need to lighten the red out, not tone it out. The opposite of red ha green. Toner uses opposite colors to counteract. It does NOT lighten hair.

    Are you trying to dye her hair blue all over? If so you have to get to much paler blonde. What blue dye are you using? Do not waste money on toner right now. You need to get to blonde first. You can’t buy toner without knowing the outcome of the bleaching yet and what color you need to tone out if even applicable. Also we don’t use chemical toners on here usually, but a blue or violet semi dye heavily diluted. We don’t want to over process esp a child’s hair. Unless going light or pastel blue, toner prob won’t be necessary, blue dye kinda tones the hair as it is applied.

    Any warmth in the hair (orange red or yellow) will make blue dye green/black. Please do not leave the red or orange to “counteract green”. You can’t dye red or orange warm brassy dark hair to blue.

    Have a look at the articles section on here for tips on fading semi (the blue) color, and then for bleaching long hair evenly. You’ll need a lot of product and a lower developer. Please let her hair regain oils and strength first. Coat hair with coconut oil before you bleach sorry if you know any of this already. Roots are bleached last. Watch hair carefully to avoid over processing.

    In a nutshell, her hair needs to be muchhhh lighter for even a dark blue. Red is not playing in her advantage. Lighten, and we’ll see what to do from there :)

    Please look at the articles first and ask again here before acting if you’d like.

  • StainRookie
    by StainRookie
    Posted 2 years, 3 months ago

    Thank you @tbonita, re-reading my post I realize I didnt express myself very well, what I meant was:

    "I see no particularly gain in toning the hair, after stripping the blue, because I don't think It will be brassy at all, having soaked in the blue pigment." Hopefully now It makes more sense!

    @ngss0811, can I ask you what is the final goal? Simply evening it out or going lighter and trying again the blue?

  • ngss0811
    by ngss0811
    Posted 2 years, 3 months ago

    Here is a previous bleach I did on her hair with t14 toner. Her hair processes really fast! She wants to be artic fox jean blue. Where her hair was blonde(in pic) the blue took really well! She has green and blue tones all over her head depending on what processed well and what didnt because of using 2 different bleach methods(this is where I'm beating myself up). I have not stripped it yet as I want to plan ahead before we start the process. I'm beating myself up for rushing through her hair because now it's a hot mess and I need help LOL how long is a good waiting period to rebleach after stripping? I mean, we are stuck at home so no one is seeing it but me LOL I plan on using 10v and paul mitchell lightening cream as it's my favorite in regards to lifting fast and not doi ng a whole lot of damage. I'm just nervous to create overpourous strands that wont hold onto color at all!

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  • vivienne
    by vivienne Staff
    Posted 2 years, 3 months ago

    I'd personally try to strip the colour as gently as possible, using oil or shampoo-based techniques until you're not getting any dye washing out when you rinse. Swimming and being out in the sun also helps fade dye, but that may or may not be feasible at the moment. By the time it's faded (might be a few weeks), her scalp should be fine to do another bleaching. A dedicated colour stripper treatment might be too damaging for fine hair, and since you'd have to do that plus at least one more lightening session because the base is too dark and to warm at the moment.

    The blonde areas you had before are probably the level you want all of her hair to be. If there's a bit of green staining from leftover blue even after you bleach, it should be okay, but it just makes it hard to gauge whether that area is the same level as the blonde.

    In the Articles section, there's one about 10 ways to remove colour, and I'd try the ones there that don't use bleach of any kind.

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