Help me, I'm at a loss!by SugarnsnarkPosted 5 years, 3 months ago
So, hi. I can't believe I ended up in this position. First of all, I thought I knew what I was doing. I researched extensively and I've done my own hair off and on most of my life. So here it is, I wanted to join the platinum/silver/grey bandwagon. Probably add a root smudge later. I'd been just darkening/smudging my own roots dark for the last 6 months, midshaft down was blonde. Before that, it had been done professionally for a couple of years.
Ok....I used prisms violet bleach from sallys to bleach it (used their version of Olaplex). It was unsurprisingly orangey yellow, except my roots which were white....(yeah, I know, my bad) I toned with T18, still super one tone and yellow, really gross. 2 days later I toned with T14 to get only a slightly less yellow mess. Now here's where I'm at, it's disgusting. I'm literally embarrassed to leave my house. Today I strand tested some options. 1. I applied bleach from below the root down to make sure my hair can handle it....it didn't lift! I'm kind of shocked. Any difference it made was very minimal. I left it on for an hr! (Good news is my poor hair tolerated it) 2. I applied an ash blonde hoping I could at least use that for these horrid white roots. It covered very blotchy and a nasty color. Kind of greenish grey. Thank god I did a strand test. 3. I applied a pretty violet silver.....you can't even see it. On top of all that, it's actually turning brassier every single day! It has orange tones in it again even though I've only used purple shampoo and conditioner.
So I'm lost now. I've debated the conditioner/purple dye thing, I'll probably strand test that tomorrow. I've thought about rebleaching (yikes) and retoning with T18, but the bleach didn't even lift. I could try adding T18 or 14 with 050 cooling violet? Or maybe a protein filler? I apparently can't color it or even add some lowlights for dimension since it's not picking up. I'm about in tears. It's so ugly. Any thoughts? Anyone?
I've been using masks and coconut oil. I also have some repairative treatments to use once I'm done messing with it
by purklePosted 5 years, 3 months ago
What strength developer were you using with the bleach when you tried to rebleach the orange sections? Perhaps a stronger developer would lift it?
by AndyaPosted 5 years, 3 months ago
The purple dye thing please do not try is suggested. The color I see is orange mixed with a little yellow and way too dark for a very pastel shade of purple as a toner. Pastel purple is made with a lot of white conditioner and a fingernail or less amount of purple semi-permanent dye. I would also suggest wait a month so the hair can get back to a closer form of healthy before trying again.
Also wonder what volume was used? Perhaps a stronger volume bleach. Please note NEVER apply 30 or 40 volume by the scalp or on the hair root area.
This is my opinion and suggestions.
by ZombiiPosted 5 years, 3 months ago
I think you need a higher volume developer in your bleach. If the Sally's version of Olaplex you used was like the Ion Absolute Perfection (I use this), you may have needed to up the developer strength to get the results you're used to.
The problem might also be using violet bleach instead of blue bleach (I recently switched from blue to violet because I'm blonde but my hair does come out orangier if I don't leave it on longer than I used to---I think I needed to stick with blue), or it could be that you used Prisms. I use Prisms and it's good for touch-ups but when I want real lift on more than just my regrowth I spring for the packets of Roux Violites. It super works but the Sally's I go to only sells it in the packets, not a tub, so it would add up if I used it every time. :(
Biggest problem is your base is still too orange/golden to get to silver. If you can get it to a bright yellow with no orange or gold tones, Pravana Silver could work. I've used it full-strength on a bright yellow base to get a dark muted purple that washed out to steel grey after the first wash. Anything lighter than steel grey/charcoal, you'll want to take it to platinum before trying to tone. And strand test. Grey is fiddly and a process and constant maintenance.
Good luck. :)
by SugarnsnarkPosted 5 years, 3 months ago
Hi, thanks for responding. When I originally bleached I used the Prisms violet with the ion stuff and 30v developer instead of 20. At the time I posted this I had tried the Prisms blue on a strand test with 20v. I ended up doing a strand test with Wella and 20v and it only turned brighter! Not really lighter, just brighter with orange.
So, frustrated as I was I used T18 with 2 caps of 050 and 30v delveloper. The result was actually MUCH better. It was at the banana peel tone it should have been BEFORE I toned. The next day I did do the purple dye/conditioner thing which was honestly wonderful. The result is significantly lighter hair than in that picture. It's still not right, I can see yellow on top and I know this is only temporary. I NEED it to lift more!
So now I'm in search of the best bleach for this nonsense. I figure I'll baby this and do the dye/conditioner thing as long as I can stand it, but in the next week or two, I'll have to try again.
Reviews on bleach are so subjective. For everyone who loves something, someone else swears it's trash. I'll look at that Roux Violites, thank you.
Any other thoughts on good highlift bleach?