Help! My daughter's hair is many colorsby dubessPosted 3 years, 1 month ago
Hi new here. Sorry to just jump in and not introduce myself but I am so concerned about my daughter's hair. My daughter bought some Splat to color her hair purple. Her hair is very dark - almost black. So the kit came with bleach which she did and it was orange - well more multi-colored - orannge, dark blonde, light blonde. I went to Sally's, told them the issue and they gave me some L'oreal quick blue and developer #40. Used it on her hair and it was still orangey, thought lighter on the top. Back to Sally's and bought Well T18 toner and developer #20. Waited 15 mins, washed it out. Now her roots are platinum blond, with some streaks of light blond, the ends and back are darker blonde. Basically a total mish mash of blonds. I have no idea what to do. She wants me to get a box color to even it out but I'm not sure that will work. I was thinking of just using the T18 toner on the back and ends but am so afraid some of her hair will start to fall out.
I would take a picture and post it here but she is so upset right now and won't let me.
Can anyone suggest something to at least even out the color for now?
by vivienne StaffPosted 3 years, 1 month ago
For a relatively quick fix, I'd try just throwing a semi-permanent dye over the whole lot. It won't do any additional damage, since it's basically just dye in conditioning products. It's not going to be totally even, but if you pick a darker warm brown or a copper red, it's generally more forgiving. Clairol Beautiful is available at Sally's, but I'm also partial to Adore's range of natural colours. If she doesn't mind something relatively unnatural, Manic Panic Vampire Red is also available at Sally's and it's quite forgiving and should be able to cover everything. You can leave any of these dyes as long as you'd like without worrying about damage, so I'd suggest at least an hour. Personally, I usually leave them in for 2 hours (covered, so they don't dry out), but you can even do it overnight if you really want to make sure you get maximum colour payout. The only potential issue is the fact that her roots are very light, but you can try using a dark brown that matches her natural hair and do a shadow root to cover them or just use a darker shade over them.
If she's hoping to continue with the purple, she'll need to get to at least a plain yellow with no strong orange tones. I've always found that my hair, which is also naturally black, requires a stronger bleach to lift it beyond orange. he brands I like from Sally's are AgeBeautiful Creme Lightener, L'Oreal Oreor Blanc, and Blond Brilliance. I would also highly suggest 20 volume instead of 40, because it lifts more slowly, which gives you enough time to actually apply it. Otherwise, you get significantly more lift on the areas you applied first, which leads to a lot of unevenness. Try a strand test with them, just on the darkest parts and see if they give you enough lift. Do not skip this step, because you'll also want to evaluate whether the level of damage is acceptable. If it's not, I'd suggest just covering it up with the dyes suggested above. Bleach damage is permanent and cumulative, so you really can't heal it afterward. I'm not really a fan of the Splat purple (Lusty Lavender, at least), because fades out to pink extremely quickly, in my experience, but if it's what you have on hand, it's fine for now. I really like Punky Plum as a very pigmented shade that lasts very well and you can dilute with conditioner stretch it further.
Just an extra note, because this type of thing happens a lot, T18 is not meant for hair that's not already platinum, since it's really just supposed to shift the tone to white. Honestly, even in that use case, I don't think it's the best solution, since there are non-damaging alternative strategies. If you have lots of orange, generally, you have to either bleach more or just pick a warm tone that will work over it.
by ZombiiPosted 3 years, 1 month ago
The only box dye color that would even everything out is black but if you put black over bleached hair the odds of ever getting it out without destroying the hair are not good (ask me how I know).
Seconding everything vivienne said, especially about the T18. I'm seriously disappointed whenever I hear these stories of Sally's employees recommending that in completely the wrong situation---like when there's any orange/gold tones in the hair, that's just not going to work out.
If her hair is really uneven, you might want to consider spot-bleaching it. Mix the bleach and only apply to the darker/orange parts, don't overlap with anything that's blonde and especially don't overlap on anything that's platinum. The darker sections theoretically are darker because they had less bleach exposure/less damage, so they can take more exposure than the lighter sections.
Strand test. Always strand test. Test the bleach to check whether the damage will be acceptable, test the color to check whether the color will be acceptable.
by dubessPosted 3 years, 1 month ago
Thank you both for your help. I should have known that doing a home bleach job was not something I should have done but I have colored my hair for years so figured "how hard could this be?". Very hard! I, too, am really unhappy with the advice from the Sally employees - if you don't know, don't say - just don't give advice to sell something. Very unhappy with that - and the Sally person I spoke to said she was a former hairdresser.
I'll definitely try to semi-permanent color to try to even it out a bit. It doesn't look that bad but it's not what she wanted. I'm really afraid to add more bleach because I don't want her hair breaking/falling out (no offense Zombii ). I think we'll wait a bit to add any new color, like the purple and will definitely stay away from Splat.
by ZombiiPosted 3 years, 1 month ago
Aww, no offense taken @dubess. I totally get it. Accidentally destroying your own hair is a horrifying experience, the only thing worse is accidentally destroying someone else's hair.
As far as Splat, I know a few people that have a lot of good luck with their colors, but I don't trust box bleach kits in general (Splat, Manic Panic Flash Lightening, Beyond The Zone, L'oreal Super Blonde, etc, whatever---it's all sold one-size-fits-all, so it's way too high a volume developer for most people to use effectively). The upside is if you put color over an uneven base, there's more dimension and the unnatural color looks more natural, so don't think she has to be platinum all over for the purple to come out looking good.
Make sure she does some deep conditioning, especially if the hair feels kind of rough. It'll be okay, you'll figure it out, everything's going to be fine. :)