Advice needed on how to get a "cooler" golden colorPosted 3 years, 3 months ago
Hello, any suggestions on how to get a slightly ashier but still yellowish blonde color? I mean, like a golden blonde but not anything too brassy? The photo in my profile picture and the photo attached below is where my hair is at right now (looks ashy in sunlight and very brassy indoors?). The photo of Cara Delevingne attached is where I'd like to get to.
My hair is naturally fine, and mousey brown and it used to be very easy to get very blonde but at this point there's a bit of color build-up maybe . I went to the hairdresser and wanted to go blonder but the hairdresser possibly didn't use enough of a vol lift or something and I asked her to add highlights but it still looks very brown and orange too me in some lights and then just ashy in others! I have been trying to get blonder slowly, I used John Frieda blonde shampoo and spray but so far the lift isn't enough IMO. I am debating my options now since I'm kindof obsessed with my hair at this point and unhappy with it.
OPTIONS: A) I am considering getting more highlights at the salon but really insisting on a 9 level (previous forum poster suggested this) highlights. CONS:These are honestly expensive here in Paris (I guess they are everywhere) and the past few times I've gone I've been unhappy with the result for some reason, it might be because I have a very naturally ashy base and it looks a bit too frosty when I get highlights without already having a lightened base, and frankly it's kindof a headache getting them at this point because everytime I go to the hairdresser and drop a ton of money I'm still unhappy and end up using toner or blue shampoo immediately after.
B) My other option I am thinking is just to do an allover bleach/ dye job to get lightened up one or two levels overall. I was thinking I might achieve this in a gentler way with a bleach bath (20 vol+ plus bleach powder + shampoo) and then some blue toner (Wella T18?) if needed. OR, should I grab some dye (plus a neutral 9 or 8 blonde color dye, nothing too dark, as this was the problem in the first place I think) at the hair dresser supply store and use it with a 30 vol developer? In the latter case I guess I would always have the option of using a toner over it if needed?
CONS: I am aware that the regrowth will be a commitment of about every 6 weeks and this could damage the hair and give it an overall uniform color that is less natural than highlights.
Thanks for the advice as always!
Also want to add is that my current hair color is driving me crazy because I can't actually figure out what color it is! It's dark blonde and almost yellow-greenish in some light (see this pic of my hair here: http://imgur.com/a/0q5Is) , it's very ashy and neutral in other lights (http://imgur.com/a/JW5tu) and then totally brassy in others (see the second pic attached in the post above). I will note that these three pics were all taken in the same day just different lights
I would not go the color route, the dye is just going to lift you one leval into the warmer phase. you have a color right now that looks like a 6 or seven (dark blonde) the natural contributing pigment in them is yellow gold/ yellow orange, so to get the hair cooler and lighter you have to lift past that stage, most dyes don't have enough lift to do it so you need bleach to get up past the color where there is orange and then tone down to what you want. if you don't mind darker hair or want a quick fix that will at least make it cooler toned look at purple/silver shampoo, or getting a violet direct dye and diluting that with conditioner to create a toner, also ion titanium can add cool tones to hair at that leval but do strand test to make sure it does what you need it to do
Thanks for reading and answering, Dizzinea. I am going to the specialty hair supply store tonight- any recommendations? Is 20 vol developer with bleach powder enough or should i get some 30 vol? Will you imagine i need a toner therafter, and is the wella colorcharm T14 (not T18 as mentioned above!) ok? As for blue shampoo I have been using it alot actually interchangably with an ash pigmented shampoo (although today i washed with a clarifying shampoo to try to get a better peek of what my current color is so i could post on this forum) . The blue and ash shampoos have cooled the look and they contribute to the current ashyness in certain lights but i am still kindof unhappy with the overall result. I also suspeft Ive overused both and that there is maybe buildup atm. I will talk to the personnel in the store but any product recommendations are good.
Hi I think 20 should be fine, also I would not do the wella toners, they are just alot of amonia and damage for nothing, can you get something like directions or manic panic? if so I would get a blue based purple from them and make a toner with that and conditioner, you want a drop of purple dye to a ton of white conditioner. you can strand test and adjust the color but essentally you are creating a non damaging cooling violet that many of the wella toners are giving you, but with a direct dye that you can just reapply with no damage whenever things look too warm
I am in Paris and Manic P might be hard to come by. Any other brands you can think of? The stores here carry lots of Loreal for example. Is there a generic term( ie ammonia free semi or demi permanent) i can provide the salesperson?
semi permenant direct dye, do they have directions? you could also order from hair crazy ( this site) it's in the UK so might be pretty quick to france, maybe loreal colorista purple? heavily diluted in conditioner is your best bet
Thank you. Ugh FYI they were totally against the bleach idea. Very strange. They recommended L'Oreal Dialight in 10.21 ( milkshake sorbet irisé) and I felt kindof obligated to buy that, BUT I'm so glad I did a strand test as it looked quasi red on the darkest strands of my hair, weirdly! See here for my little strand test on two little strands on the back of my neck: http://imgur.com/a/jgGZ6 http://imgur.com/a/yTO8z
My bleach powder hasn't arrived yet but tonight I left my John Frieda go blonder in for longer than usual and then mixed a little of my blue shampoo with a 20 vol developer and left that in for about 5 minutes. Nothing drastic but it actually looks better now!!! See: http://imgur.com/a/TtpqZ
I'll post an update when I use the bleach powder eventually.
sounds good, great that you did the strand test, hair stylists are often taught by color lines that their product can lift and lift nicer and more consistanly that they can, unless you are a ash toned 7 with no warmth in your natural then high lift dyes are hard to use well even pros get them wrong. ash happens after orange is removed, there are ways to get by but it's constant maintenence, once you get up out of the orange stage nice blonds are much easier to achieve and maintain
HELP i did a bleach bath and its SO ORANGE but is it light enough? Should I do one more?
This is me now. It's very bright orange. HELP. Also the underside didnt lift half as much as the top part did (where I had highlights and used blonder spray I assume?)
Should I tone now, or try to go lighter? http://imgur.com/a/oR84V
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