Can I bleach bath already bleached hair? Too many incorrect shades of blonde!by T_illPosted 2 years, 9 months ago
On June the 2nd I decided I wanted to change my ombré hair all blonde. It lifted fine with a 20vol. 5 months went by and my roots were quite long, around 2 1/2 inches. My sister and I bleached it at home with a 20vol but stupidly we didn't leave it on long enough (30 mins) and the toner didn't seem to take properly (t18 wella) so my roots went ginger!
I left it a week then went to the salon and got my roots re bleached. I think she used a 10vol and left it on for 40 minutes. I brought along my t18 so she could use the rest of the bottle on my roots because I didn't want her toner to be a different one to the t18 I used on my previously bleached roots.
With a 10vol, she applied the toner but on wet hair! I told her she was supposed to apply it on dry hair and just the roots but she is a foreign lady and I don't think she understood me (she hadn't used wella products before) we left it for 30 mins. She left it and I have attached images of the final result.
She knew the toner didn't fully take and wanted to apply her one but I had to be somewhere so I left.
On the front of my hair I have violet/white strands, my roots are light then the rest of my hair is a warmer blonde. There is a clear ash blonde band mark.
After all that I want to know if I can do a bleach bath on my hair to remove the toner and re tone the whole head to get an even overall blonde?
Sorry to go on- thanks and please help!!
by Jude StaffPosted 2 years, 9 months ago
Here's how I would tackle it.
If you have access to a UV torch or bulb (you can get them really cheaply on Amazon), have a look at your hair under UV, which will show you all the darkest areas. Section your hair into thin sections and secure it with clips. This will allow you to sort through your hair and work quickly. Keep the clips in as you'll need to return to some areas. Mix up some bleach with a low volume peroxide - no higher than 20 volume. Using the UV light for guidance, work through your hair quickly applying bleach to the very darkest areas first, using a tint brush. Afterwards, do a second pass and apply bleach to any remaining areas that appear dark. Check how the hair is processing frequently in daylight. When it's light enough, shampoo out the bleach.
As the bleach washes out it will most likely take out the majority of the remaining T18 with it.
I would avoid doing bleach baths to fix uneven colour as it's kind of scattergun approach and will over-process areas that don't need it. You'll need to be careful with how you use the T18 in the future because it's easy for some areas to become more porous than others and in those areas more of the violet colour will be picked up, which could result in an uneven colour. I recommend doing a strand test before reapplying. Applying it to the roots and pulling the colour through the mid-lengths and ends for the last few minutes of processing will probably be the way forward.
I've mentioned this before elsewhere, but I'm quite wary of using Color Charm for toning. Dyes like this which contain ammonia can be really damaging for bleached hair. I learned this from experience Direct dyes (i.e. dyes that aren't mixed with developer) are a great non-damaging alternative.
Anyway, hope this helps! Let us know how it goes.
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by LoonPosted 2 years, 9 months ago
great advice from Jude I would avoid the wella toner afterward as it will likely cause more damage and unevenness a better solution imo is to make up a lavender tinted conditioner using a tiny bit of purple direct dye in lots of conditioner you can also combine blue and pink if you have those, that way you can tweak as needed go lightly and use as often as required to keep your hair toned
by AndyaPosted 2 years, 9 months ago
Toner is only effective from my non-professional experience when the hair is the same shade of the inside of a banana peel in color. Toner does not change the color only masks or hides unwanted yellow.
Some of the hair looks yellow and some of the hair looks purple. Suggest spot bleach bath only the parts that are yellow. A long time ago there was a highlighting kit, Redken, that said bleach effective for 90 minutes. In my non-professional experience I would estimate more like 60 minutes is how long bleach is effective.
if maintaining white hair suggest Shimmer Lights, So Silver or Generic Version of Shimmer Lights which are purple based shampoos. Purple based shampoos will help to mask the yellowing that occurs in all hair colors but most noticeable in white.
Best of luck. These are my suggestions.