Melting hair/ Bleach damagePosted 4 years, 4 months ago
I had super long hair, was dying it red for YEARS and decided I wanted to go pastel lilac. When I stripped my hair is was healthy. When I went blonde I had MINOR damage and it looked amazing. I did this all on my own after researching and waited two weeks to bleach again to platinum. Worst mistake ever. In some sort of freak accident my hair heated up insanely in less than 20 minutes and started melting, I quickly washed the bleach out and my hair was coming out in clumps. In this nightmare my hair was ruined, and I examined it in the mirror as I realized that 60% of my hair was mush and the rest was a string mess. I made an emergency hair appointment the next morning and the hair dresser informed me that my hair was screwed. He cut all of the mush off and more and now I have a short bob. I have tried aphoogee and but it did not do much. My hair when dry feels normal (maybe just a tad dry) but when wet it is stringy and feels like ramen noodles. I have to comb with a wide tooth comb and immediately blow dry with a round brush to make my hair look normal. I have also been dying my hair with a bowl of conditioner and a spoon of manic panic for pastel color. Any tips on improving my hair? and will leaving conditioner in my hair overnight or for 40 mins weaken it?
by QueenyPosted 4 years, 4 months ago
Sorry to hear that. Indeed sounds like you fried your hair. Allways with bleaching wait at least a month before bleaching again as damage is only shown after a month (so it may seem healthy at first- but you've experienced what can happen if it isn't).
As for 'repairing'- there is not much you can do. Damaged hair is damaged. There is no miracle stuff for it. And overconditioning it won't do it good either. Allmost too afraid to suggest, but; if it still feels stringy, damaged and snaps off when wet- that's still damaged hair. Maybe get a pixie cut to start fresh? I suggest this as damage moves up the shaft (so to your new regrowth aswell). That means that if you don't eliminate the hard damage your hair won't get better... @wicked_pixie knows a lot about hair, maybe she can help out better then I can
If it feels and looks ok however I'd say just continue pampering it (maybe a picture would be helpfull?). When dry- argan oil or virgin coconut oil allways help my ends!
the dying with manic panic won't do harm..
Hope I was of some help & best of luck!
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by Asha_Posted 4 years, 4 months ago
So sorry to hear that, @sinbad. I think @Queeny gave some good advice; a pixie cut might be the way to go. But if you don't want that, or if the damage goes so far up it won't help, there may be some other things you could try. If I were in your shoes (I was, quite recently, although in a less dramatic way), my first priority would be to not add to the damage. I would quite blowdrying, or if you must, take your time and use the lowest setting, because heat causes damage. When I fried my hair, I used to put some oil in the lengths and ends (argan, like Queeny suggested, is a good choice), then let it airdry until it was just a little bit damp, then put some really silicon heavy hair serum at the tips. With these products in my hair, I would gently finger comb my hair, smooth it a little and mold in into shape while it was doing it's last bit of drying. You can also use the lowest setting on your blow dryer just to give it this last push.
I could also be a good idea to not wash your hair as often as your used to, and use only a conditioner instead of both a shampoo and a conditioner. Before I got a bit of my hair cut off, I first used a conditioner that was heavy on protein, and then a conditioner that was moisturizing (if your in the UK: I personally really like the banana conditioner from the Body Shop for this, but there are other great choices as well).
I'm sure other haircrazies will have more/better suggestions for you. Best of luck!
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by LhvoylesPosted 4 years, 4 months ago
I would halt all chemical processing and high heat tools immediately. Low heat blow drying is annoying, but it can save your hair. You're going to have to grow that damage out before bleaching again. It takes about 16-18 months to grow all of the damage out to shoulder length. I just completed the process myself, which was torturous, but worth it.
If you don't want to chop it all off, you will need to take VERY good care of your hair. I refused to get a pixie, so I got a trim of anything super frazzled every two to three months to maintain an above the shoulder cut, which was the shortest I would go. You could probably pull off the pixie, but I could not. No or minimal sulfates from now on. I totally recommend cleansing conditioner. Hair One Almond oil variety works great, even on oily hair. If your hair is not nasty oily like mine, you could go for Olive Oil type. I used almond oil on the roots and olive oil on the ends, but they are $10 a piece. Avoid conditioners and products with silicones, as they seal the dryness into the hair further. Pretty much any ingredient ending in -cone is a silicone.
The noodley texture of your hair likely means it is lacking protein more so than moisture. Hair needs adequate protein to grab moisture, so moisturizing treatments, including coconut oil, will likely not do much for you right now. A conditioner that worked well for me is Clairol iThrive keratin conditioner from Sally's. It slowly restores protein to the hair shaft. It's important to add it slowly, as too much protein in the shaft can cause more breakage. It's about $7.50 for a large tube.
Hope that was helpful
by vivienne StaffPosted 4 years, 4 months ago
It doesn't look super terrible, so it seems you at least have a decent styling regimen. I would continue to get regular trims until you've fully removed the damage, since it's just going to slow down your hairs growth until you can get rid of all of it. If you can try out Olaplex for a relatively reasonable price around you, you can give that a shot. Obviously, peroxide processes are out of the question for a while.
by TCMDivaPosted 4 years, 4 months ago
I agree with the other folks who have said avoid heat styling and high heat blow drying. Andya taught me that letting your hair air dry gives it the time your hair and scalp need to absorb the moisture and it's made a huge difference in my hair. In fact, we should give @Andya a holler since I know he'll have some great suggestions and he has never steered me wrong in matters of hair! :) I would also, if you can, avoid combing it even with a wide toothed comb while it's wet. When hair is wet it's very fragile. I let mine air dry and let it do whatever it wants without combing it and then gently brush it from ends to roots once it's dry. I'm sorry you have suffered such damage- some people might say, "It's just hair so get over it" but I understand it's so much more and can just make you heart-sick. Good luck and please keep us posted on what works for you, ok?
Thank you all so much for the advice, I have been treating my hair like a baby for the past month (that is when the damage happened) i only wash 2 times a week and it is a long process because I blow dry with low heat and it takes AGES. I have yet to let my hair air dry because the hair dresser that made the big chop for me said it would look terrible but I may give it a try. I no longer use my straightener (sometimes to fix my bangs) but thats it. I will update when I summon the courage to air dry, haha. The hair dresser also said the short bob would be fine as long as I cared for my hair immensely, I'm terrified to cut off any more! Honestly my hair does not feel "fried" or dry but it does have that weird elastic noodle texture when wet (I basically cry every time I shower) but after styling nobody can tell my hair is ruined because it looks and even feels normal. It is the strangest thing ever :/
Right now the plan is to grow it out and slowly chop the damaged bits off.... I can't wait until its healthy again! I am just really wondering if leaving conditioner in my hair (which is how I get it to that lilac color with manic panic) will weaken my hair even more. I just don't want to have ugly yellow brassy hair so I add the color when it starts to fade, it does not seem like it is doing any damage but I just wanted to see what you guys would say... Again, thanks for all the kind words!
by AndyaPosted 4 years, 4 months ago
Redken makes a leave-in conditioner, Anti-snap I believe, that have used and felt had improved the condition of my damaged hair. I obtained Anti-snap at a chain salon that sold Redken products in the states. Wet hair has a different texture and strength when wet. Hair is not as strong wet and should not go to sleep with damp hair. I would suggest leave in conditioner in the hair that only indicates the conditioner is meant to be left in. Cold water will help to close the cuticle. Cuticle on the hair are like drawers of a dresser. If the cuticle or drawers are open then the hair has a rougher surface and may tangle on each other more. Closed cuticles on the hair shaft then the hair is smoother and does not tangle as much.
Since concerned about yellowing of the hair, suggest a purple based shampoo like So Silver or Shimmer Lights or Generic Brand of Shimmer Lights.
Best of luck!
by vivienne StaffPosted 4 years, 4 months ago
Leaving in conditioner won't weaken your hair unless it has protein, which sometimes makes your hair more brittle if you use it in excess.
by AndyaPosted 4 years, 4 months ago
Oh yeah, another note, C# I think, protein treatments are good for the hair but protein treatments also can remove moisture from the hair. So definitely suggest a moisture rich conditioner after ward. As kindly mentioned by @TCMDiva letting the hair air dry, indoors especially if winter, gives time for the hair and scalp to absorb moisture. Dry hair can be brittle and Sahara desert dry hair can lead to breakage.
by temptessxPosted 4 years, 4 months ago
Another thing that might mask some of the damage is conditioners with silicone's in them. A good one I've tried when my hair was damaged was the pantene repair and protect I think it was. If you do use silicone's be sure to use a cleansing shampoo every once in a while to remove the silicone build up and before toning as they can block the dye from sticking. Agree the hair could also be doing with a protein treatment and some argon oil on the ends can really help to keep them tame and in place without heat.
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by SwilksPosted 4 years, 4 months ago
Do you know of any salons doing Olaplex treatments nearby? I would give that a go for sure. It wont solves the crisis completely and its not a miracle but it could really help in this case
by angiPosted 4 years, 4 months ago
i was saying better to avoid products that contain silicones (especially me now i know about them). before long time ago i have get too my hair this way damaged (to add that and now is not in best condition but not like before!) and i used anything i believe is good for my damaged hair as it was this things being always so much advertised! my hair never was okay of course and it was so heavy and DAMAGED haha and i always chop my over dry ends.. so now i learn about them if i use product that is with silicone i understand immediately!! and just i cannot to keep on my hair anymore! i think the better you have to do is what already saying and the other colleagues about coconut oil, argan oil, co washing that is to not shampoo your hair but only with conditioner with out silicone, or at least free sulfate shampoo but less shampooing. i like when i wash my hair after before to put in towel pass on my hair a bit of coconut oil it makes the ends soft and not break anymore as usually does.. ah !! definitely need big decision to not blow dry your hair something too is difficult to not do but just i keep far from my hair and in the lower heat the summer in cold .. Good luck to as :D and yes let us to know how is going By the way your pastel is so beautiful :)
by clarab2Posted 4 years, 4 months ago
Wow, this is very informative. I am about to process my daughter's hair, and came here for advice. She has long hair, and we've been colouring with semi-permanent black for a while, maybe six applications? She wants to bleach and go tangerine-orange. Her hair is healthy. She pulls it back into a bun for dance and I am concerned about breakage. I bleached a portion of her hair for contrast and it bleached to light yellow in about 50 minutes and took the colour (manic panic) well. will coconut oil interfere with the bleaching process? Do I need to strip, then coconut oil, then bleach? I worry that I will do to her hair what Sinbad unwittingly did to HER hair. There is a lot to learn. Thanks in advance for any advice you can give.
by Babydee0001Posted 4 years, 4 months ago
I always soak my hair overnight with coconut oil prior to bleaching then apply bleach directly on top without rinsing coconut out. I severely damaged many years ago by bleaching twice to go platinum from black after only using colour remover once. I had to have a posh spice haircut afterwards :-( The best thing is always colour removing until has lightened significantly then bleaching on top of coconut oil. My hair has been fine ever since using these methods. And I've changed from box black dye a number of times with no probs. Colour removers are 100% the best route to take first x
by katoxPosted 4 years, 4 months ago
Colour remover (to get the black out, may take several applications).
Coconut oil all over hair to minimise damage from lightening, then bleach. Best to use a low volume as then you have time to put it on (though if your daughter's hair is long it is best to do it in sections), and watch how long it takes to lighten. If she is wanting an orange, going all the way to blonde won't be necessary, so again, less damaging.
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by gojiberryPosted 4 years, 4 months ago
I agree with the others to try a color remover. I also have gone platinum after having dyed my hair permanent black. Unfortunately Color Oops had no effect on my hair because it was permanently stained. But it is healthier for the hair than to bleach unnecessarily. Depending on the dye your daughter used, the color remover could work!
I have also been bleaching with my hair saturated in coconut oil for as long as 24 hours beforehand, and it does not hinder the bleaching process at all. Because of staining, my hair isn't as light as the inside of banana everywhere, but it is mostly a platinum blonde. I did two full bleachings and a few spot treatments. Always do test strands as well.
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