Getting rid of amplified manic panic (red)?Posted 6 years ago
I need help recovering from some mistakes, heh.
I'd gone purple with Manic Panic originally and liked the colors (once I figured out you had to pretty much leave it in overnight to get decent results, that is) but got frustrated with how quickly the purple faded despite babying it as much as I could... not to mention how badly it bled every time I showered or started sweating (Houston, TX - it's always hot and humid).
Next, I tried Splat's Lusty Lavender... I decided I wasn't that happy with the brand, so I decided to give Manic Panic Amplified a try. This is important to note, I suspect, because I never did get the last traces of the Lusty Lavender out of my hair even after 2-3 months despite trying every trick in the book short of bleaching again (one of the reasons I wasn't happy with Splat).
Sally's Beauty Supply didn't have a color I wanted to try, so I went to the Manic Panic website. It was like $17 for one bottle of amplified... but only $5 for certain limited-edition colors. I get less picky when $12 is at stake, lol. The cheap options were Asphalt Jungle (an awesome dark gray/green I'll get around to trying eventually), Rock-it-Red and Lavender Blue. Lavender Blue looked nice, but I wanted a warmer purple so I went the DIY route. Mixing Rock-It-Red and Lavender Blue in about a 1:5 ratio resulted in something in-between dark magenta and purple, which is what I wanted.
At the same time I switched to amplified, I discovered some Ion products - a pre-color treatment (porosity equalizer), an after-color sealer and an after-color treatment. I colored over the last traces of the Splat dye, which were pastel by then and didn't show once I'd recolored. I'm not sure if it was switching to the amplified version, the new products or both... but finally, NO bleeding/color leakage! Unfortunately, the amplified sticks around for months while the regular stuff is fully faded to a faint pastel by about 6 weeks.
Anyway, I suspect mistake #1 was not getting rid of the last traces of Splat dye... mistake #2 was probably mixing the Lavender and red dyes, because the combo faded very unevenly. Actually, technically, mistake #1 was using the bleach that came with the Splat dye even though I had a bad feeling about it - I convinced myself they knew something I didn't, which apparently they don't, heh. It was brutal on my hair (in retrospect, while they don't seem to say what it is, I'm almost certain it's 40 strength developer - ouch!).
Mistake #3, I think, was getting lazy when it came time to re-do the magenta/purple color I'd achieved with the amplified Manic Panic. I'd planned to bleach my roots, but because the end result is basically the same darkness as my natural color and I was so wary of/fed up with bleach, I ended up re-coloring my hair without doing my roots first. This seemed to work just fine at first...
After the second round of magenta, I wanted to go for straight purple but I was still recovering my hair from the darn Splat bleach. For at least 2 months now, I've been washing my hair in hot water, using dandruff shampoo at least a couple times a week, etc. in an attempt to encourage fading. I've tried the vitamin C trick. It's been 3-4 months since I've colored my hair. Everything that was color-free after the Splat dye faded to a very pale lavender, the portion that was bleached but still retained some color was a mild magenta and the part where I hadn't bleached before re-coloring seemed to retain the most magenta/reddish hues (plus, of course, a couple inches of light to medium brown roots).
Sick of my hair looking like c***, I finally caved and bleached it so I could color it again. I was very reluctant to re-bleach hair that had finally pretty much recovered, but this time I really did my research and felt like I (and my hair) could manage it. I skipped the Manic Panic bleach kit and went for 20 strength developer, plus I found out about the wonders of coconut oil and invested in a very pricey deep conditioner.
The good news is that my freshly-bleached hair seems to be in good shape - it's drying now and feels incredibly soft, plus it's still trying to curl even after leaving the deep conditioner in for 15+ mins before washing it out, then combing it again after it was partially towel-dried (both guaranteed curl-killers for me :P). It's too soon to tell for sure, but it seems like it sustained very little damage from this last round of bleaching.
The bad news is that there's still a ton of red and orange tones in the upper 6'' or so of my hair (I gave the bleach plenty of time to work; didn't wash it out until I felt like it had done all it could do). The once-roots that I didn't lighten before re-coloring a few months are now technically blonde, at least, but they've still got residual dye on top, heh.
I'm a total noob when it comes to toner and am wondering if this is something that could be fixed by using the right one. I feel like I could easily make the pink hues work under purple if that's my only option, but I'd really prefer to get more of the color out before I dye it again - any advice would be greatly appreciated!
Oh, and sorry about the pic quality... bathroom lighting leaves much to be desired, my hair was freshly towel-dried and I'm pretty fail at taking pictures of my own hair, heh >.>
by vivienne StaffPosted 6 years ago
Are you still aiming for purple? Your base is definitely fine for it unless you're looking for a pastel, so I don't think you really need to worry about lightening any more. If there's an Ulta near you (or you can order online), Punky Plum a great purple that will cover up what you've got without an issue.
You probably didn't really need to fully fade the magenta to get to purple by adding a bit of turquoise or blue. It's true that adding another colour before one has fully faded may cause build-up, but plenty of people go around the colour wheel and it's not really much of an issue unless want to do white or very light colours.
Posted 6 years ago
The main reason I wanted to at least know how get rid of the last of the pink is because I want to go green soon. I'm doing purple one more time because I need to get my driver's license renewed soon and I want purple hair for it (it's my favorite color)! I won't have to get a new DL pic for 12 years and I want that proof that I was still weird when I was 30, lol.
When I was in college, I tried to go blue once and hated it instantly - it came out way too dark and I didn't like the shade (in retrospect, this was probably largely because I didn't bleach first). Not knowing what I know now about semi-permanent dyes, I did what I thought was the logical thing - I ran out and bought a box of color remover. It stripped the natural color out of my hair and half-faded the blue, so I ended up with this odd, intense koolaid green color on top of blonde that was greener in some spots and more golden-green in others.
I was mortified because it wasn't at all what I wanted but didn't want to risk more damage to get rid of the color so I figured I'd just tough it out until it faded enough to color over with a natural color... imagine my surprise when I got constant compliments, lol - everyone wanted to know how I got my hair the exact same color as my eyes (which change shades a bit to match similar greens in my wardrobe)! Now I want to see if I can recreate that with green dye... but I don't think it's gonna work out if I can't get rid of the pink.
by vivienne StaffPosted 6 years ago
Hm, can you post a photo of the green you're going for? I think if you want any type of kelly green or darker, you should still be fine as long as you can fade the purple out. I've certainly gotten green over worse bases. The purple will probably tone your current colour a bit, as well, so it'll help make sure the green doesn't look too warm or too muddy.
Posted 6 years ago
It didn't occur to me at the time to take a pic of my green hair, unfortunately. I found something very similar to how it turned out on Google... now if I could just figure out how to achieve this sort of shading on purpose, lol:
I managed to sort out the issue with the pink - when I went back to Sally's Beauty Supply yesterday, I found an employee who knew exactly what I needed in terms of toner. It was a toner + additive (blue)... the box was a bit vague as far as how much additive to use (2-4 cap-fulls), so I err'd on the side of using too much knowing that the worst that could happen was ending up with a pastel lavender tint to my hair - irrelevant when I'm going to be dying it purple anyway.
The roots (well, first few inches) ended up still having a slight golden tint to them, but no orange or pink... the length of my hair, which was already a very pale blonde after bleaching, ended up an ashy lavender. All-in-all, I'd call it a successful experiment - it'll look just fine once it's dyed purple and now I know for next time to apply the toner just to the roots/problem areas, wait a while, then apply it to the rest when I've only got like 5-10 minutes to go.