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Sorry for making lots of topics lately but I don't think I told this story on here.
I know we all get "Stop dying your hair! It'll fall out!" or whatever unwelcomed "advice" from people.
My mom was horrible with this. Don't get me wrong, I love my mom, but she's... really dim-witted.
She said that it was impossible to go from dark or brown hair to blond. You can only get blond highlights. When I told her I wanted to get my hair bleached, she brought me to a stylist who agreed with her (she probably specifically chose this stylist for that reason). So I kept getting highlights which never looked great honestly. The last time I got them from her, she didn't put toner on them and they ended up really yellow and gross looking. What's funny is that there were other stylists in that same salon who would do full-head bleachings. But my mom said it was bad because it "stung the scalp".
So then I pointed out to her all the celebrities who get their dark hair platinum blonde, like Gwen Stefani. She thought that Gwen and others were natually blonde (which you can clearly tell they aren't). But then she said "Well they have professional stylists and such.". Okay, so... you're not taking me to a professional???
And it's funny because even she stopped going to this stylist for messing up her hair. Instead of giving her more highlights when her roots grew in, she like dyed the roots an orangey color (yeah, I don't get why she did that). But she'd still bring me to her. Maybe she was charging less. I don't know.
Also someone dying their hair, it fell out, so they tell others not to. Despite the fact that this person was just a novice and made an error of some sort that others wouldn't make. Like, if someone keeps their hair short, and they bleach it, then wait until it grows out and cut all the bleached part off, then they bleach the newly grown hair... it won't fall out (most likely) because the new hair was never bleached. Unless the bleach causes scalp damage but the hair itself isn't damaged yet and that should be obvious but people are stupid.
Oh and I almost forgot! When you bleach your hair then dye with a plant-based non-chemical dye like most of us use, then you keep applying it ever month or so to refresh the color (but don't use bleach or chemicals)... and people tell you your hair will fall out if you keep dying it. Any explaining to them goes right over their head. When the dye is usually actually conditioning to the hair.
I was also told that you couldn't dye your hair rainbow at all because no matter how careful you were, the colors would all bleed together and form a yucky brown color.
There's probably more I'm forgetting. I'm sure you all have people saying stuff like this though.
~HairCrazy member since 2006~
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you mean people like my sister who bleach their hair to be blonde everytime, but think i ruin my hair with 'these damaging colours'.
Or my mum who makes her own hair orange (brighter then the average ginger colour) and then smacks down 'different colours' :P
Or random people who ask how i deal with ALL THE DAMAGE! dum dum dummmmm (dramatic music)
If you think unicorns don't exist, we cannot be friends...
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The one that makes me crazy is the "dye your hair red with no bleaching"
...with hicolor.
Stop it. Now.
Then ironically they use it over and over to top up, oh lord
I am such the anti-hicolor
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I'm anti Hi-Colour as well @Swilks and Wella Colour Charm toner...guyssss just stop it! :'(
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The Colour Charm toners!!!!! OMG I hate those things!!!!!
My motto is 'you can't argue with stupid' so I just walk away now, there are much more interesting topics to argue about
I did then what I knew then, & when I knew better, I did better.
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Sorry Worm3rck for going off topic but I really have no clue why people use Colour Charm before they put direct colour on their hair?!
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Because it magically makes orange hair white, with no damage! I saw it on Youtube so it must be true
I did then what I knew then, & when I knew better, I did better.
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Katox, it's fine, this is actually on-topic.
I never heard of Hi-Color or Color Charm so Iooked them both up... and yeah they use developers and lift.
I want to tell people that if it lifts or lightens, it does damage!! No buts about it. Even natural highlights from the sun.
Unless in the future they invent technology that doesn't... but I don't know if that's possible.
My mom was the same way, I forgot to mention that. She said that getting highlights didn't damage the hair. -_- And I remember in school once, I heard two girls talking. Both had gotten highlights, and one said "Yeah but too bad it damages the hair.". And the other one said "Wait, it damages it?". How can you not know what's being done to your own hair?? Maybe a stylist talked her into it without giving all the facts.
~HairCrazy member since 2006~
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There is still loads of misinformation online about hair coloring, and for better AND worse it is easier than ever to get products. Before I came here I read in several places about how your hair needed to be toned to white to dye it. Wella Color Charm T18 AKA White Lady was mentioned so often you'd think everyone had stock in the company. Fortunately I came to this site before I used it and it sits in my bathroom cabinet to this day. Also, I don't know if it still says it on any of their marketing but Manic Panic always used to push "the deader, the better" as the mantra for alternative hair dyeing.
I think that the people who still embrace that mentality (knowingly or unknowingly) have contributed to the idea that coloring with semis equals effing up your hair.Sweet freedom whispered in my ear...you're a butterfly...and butterflies are free to fly...fly away...
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I was never fond of Hicolor =_=;; in the past I bleached and dyed my hair bright red and had no problems with it. But I always see the classic 'use hicolor, it's safer than bleaching your hair and dying it red.' I simply like the whole bleach/dye process, because to me it simpler :D when the color fades you just slap the semi color on, wait, and then your color is restored :D
I stopped listening to stylist a long time ago when I got the hang of bleaching and hair dye <3 ;)
Unnatural hair colors are not to be looked down upon, but embraced.
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It cracks me up every time I see someone say "I don't want to bleach my hair, I'm just going to use a box dye."
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It's hilarious (or it would be, if it weren't kinda sad) how scared so many people are of bleach, and how so many are deluded into thinking box dyes are "safer." Marketing, man.
There's a lot of beauty in ordinary things. Isn't that kind of the point?
People don't want perfection. They want honesty.
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I forgot about people dyeing their hair darker, with a box dye, to give it a 'rest'. It always makes me imagine the hair working really hard to stay blond and then going 'phew' and having a little sit down when it is brown again lol
I did then what I knew then, & when I knew better, I did better.
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Didn't realize that asking for some guidance about stopping the bleach due to dryness and really bad breakage and covering with a no lift color to give it a chance to become healthy again was a faux pax here.. apologies
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Smacciemac wrote: Didn't realize that asking for some guidance about stopping the bleach due to dryness and really bad breakage and covering with a no lift color to give it a chance to become healthy again was a faux pax here.. apologies
Is that aimed at my comment? Not a faux pas, asking for advice never is, there is no such thing as a stupid question. My comment was a dig at people who think dark box dyes aren't damaging and are somehow good for your hair and only dyes that make your hair lighter are damaging, which is just not true. Box dyes in any colour use the same level of peroxide generally, so are equally damaging.
I did then what I knew then, & when I knew better, I did better.
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Yeah, it's not the asking for advice that's the problem -- asking for advice is a GREAT thing. All of us were newbies once, and if we didn't ask questions we'd never learn! It's the idea of using a permanent dye to take a "break" from bleach when permanent dye does as much damage as, if not more damage than, bleach. A lot of people don't know this, and as I said earlier, I blame marketing. Some companies spend a lot of money to make their products seem "safe and gentle" when many of them are anything but!
There's a lot of beauty in ordinary things. Isn't that kind of the point?
People don't want perfection. They want honesty.
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Plus my comment was aimed at people i actually know in real life, the members here are far more clued up lol
I did then what I knew then, & when I knew better, I did better.
— Maya Angelou -
It wasn't a dig or anything.. but yes I see where you are coming from on the permanent dye now.. sorry.. new here and trying to get away from paying $90-$120 for color that I am constantly unhappy with. I have no doubt that I can most likely do a better job myself.. because I actually care how it turns out lol
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Yeah keep in mind, this thread isn't aimed at those with questions; it's aimed at those who think they know it all when they're really misinformed and they accept a lie as a truth! And then they try to tell people with actual knowledge that they're wrong. -_- Like my mom saying that her 9-level lift highlights didn't damage as much as bleach... please.
~HairCrazy member since 2006~
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Hey, some of us like our color charm ☺️☺️☺️ If I ever am going blonde to stay blonde its my favorite (non direct dye) toner.
I work at sallys so I get a lot of people coming in to advise their friends and telling them awful things. Here's a couple examples.
"You're hair is brown and you probably want to lighten it really fast so definitely get 40 volume peroxide. 20/30 wont do anything."
"You're gonna have to keep touching up your red/blonde with the same permenant color when it fades/gets brassy."
"Your hair is completely dead but this conditioner will repair all the breakage and split ends so you can keep bleaching it." Theyre like Dory from Finding Nemo. "Just keep bleaching, bleaching, bleaching. What do we do? We bleach bleach bleach."
JUSTDYEIT
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Smacciemac wrote: It wasn't a dig or anything.. but yes I see where you are coming from on the permanent dye now.. sorry.. new here and trying to get away from paying $90-$120 for color that I am constantly unhappy with. I have no doubt that I can most likely do a better job myself.. because I actually care how it turns out lol
That is EXACTLY why I color my hair myself! I figure if I mess up my own hair, I'm out a few bucks as opposed to the small paycheck's worth I'm out if I pay a professional to do it for me.
There's a lot of beauty in ordinary things. Isn't that kind of the point?
People don't want perfection. They want honesty.
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